Avowed - Nearly 6 Million Players

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Tweaktown reports that Avowed has reached nearly 6 Million players.

Thanks Couchpotato!

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[wolfgrimdark]

I read the article and it's not only a guess but a forecasted guess

I hope MS does consider it a success as I am having a blast with the game. I am up to 53.4 hours played and just entered the third area. I believe there are 4 so guessing game will take me 75-100 hours to finish - depending on how long/large 3 and 4 are.

I'm sticking with 8.5/10* for now. The 1.5 points taken off are for my own personal issues with the game. No dog/animal companion, NPC's lack AI depth/schedules, and there needs to be more wildlife in the Living Lands, Not just bears, water beetles, spiders, and atmosphere only rats. But the pro's greatly outweigh the cons and it's a really good fun game for me. I continue to see good things about it said online although of course my social media feeds are curated and all that so probably not worth much If the ending is really good then I will probably give a final rating of 9/10. If the ending is really bad I might subtract a point.

*Scoring is based on the WolfGrimDark Scoring Index, aka the WSI.

 

[Vaelith]

They must be real worried about the low number of players on Steam.

 

[mbuddha]

Haven't had a chance to check up on games or RPGs in a while but I was hoping this one would prove a potential buy (on the inevitable steam sale ofc, that price is ridiculous).

I got about 40% through Outer Worlds before I was completely unenamored with it. I also thought PoE2 was a great iso rpg with the nicest "Infinity" engine yet, but I never was into the lore and world much.

So does this game have any Arcanum or New Vegas level quality vibes at least? Or is it too similar to its less interesting brethren (Outer Worlds for example). I can say that I read that the NPCs stay put day or night and that is a detraction for sure.

 

[Couchpotato]

Well anyone can believe what they want but I've said it before. MS cares about player numbers on GamePass, and according to the various stats it was very successful.

It's the same situation debated countless times on various Starfield threads as well.

Gone are the days of just relying on physical or digital sales.

 

[Stingray]

according to the various stats it was very successful.

Well, the article linked in this very thread is referencing an estimate from "MindGame Data", and MindGame Data's conclusion was that they aren't sure if it's a success or not. Sounds like they think 5.9M players (assuming their estimate is even accurate) probably isn't enough. It's in the summary image at the bottom of the article.

"Without strong retention, 5.9M players may not be enough to justify the investment - but if Avowed sustains engagement through strong word of mouth, DLC, and an eventual PlayStation release, it could still be a success"

In truth, we'll never know if the game was considered "successful" or not because we'll never have access to Microsoft's data and Microsoft's interpretation of said data. If we end up getting a sequel, it can't have been a total bomb though.

 

[jpnole]

This game screams mediocrity at best. You can tell they were aiming for nothing but a 7/10 and trying to hit a certain sales number. I have more respect for a game dev that gave their best effort and only scored a 5 or 6. The game has no soul at all. Sadly we've seen a lot of these types of releases in the past few years. Let's take a 10 year old game Witcher 3 for comparison. Avowed doesn't even deserve to be sold on the same platform as such a revered RPG. I spend over $1K yearly on gaming between PC and mobile purchases and I wouldn't touch this game for more than $20. I would repurchase Pillars of Eternity, a game I already own, before I even considered this game. Feel free to disagree but if you are a middle aged gamer like me you know exactly what I'm saying. This game was made to tick just enough boxes while appealing to the widest gaming demographic and that is sadly all there is to say. Obsidian should be ashamed for rolling over for MS/XBOX like this.

 

[num4!vr34umu5t4r!]

Probably half of those numbers are people with 1$ trial on gamepass like me .
I finished this in around 40h, pretty mediocre as expected. Only thing ill remember about this game is Garrus' voice.

 

[Stingray]

Feel free to disagree but if you are a middle aged gamer like me you know exactly what I'm saying.

Yep, it's the typical dumbed-down action RPG, the go-to fare of most late-stage, previously-good RPG studios once they've either gone creatively bankrupt, sold out, or both. I think we got another one coming soon from inXile.

Obsidian should be ashamed for rolling over for MS/XBOX like this.

It's not like they have a choice now...

 

[Andrew23]

In past I would most certainly play this game as I played almost all games with good reviews. But today, when my time for this hobby is so precious, game like this doesnt make it even on my wishlist.

Personally, I dont expect much creativity from game studios woking in corporate structures. Creativity is related to freedom and risk and none of these are welcomed by corporates.

 

[bkrueger]

In past I would most certainly play this game as I played almost all games with good reviews. But today, when my time for this hobby is so precious, game like this doesnt make it even on my wishlist.

Personally, I dont expect much creativity from game studios woking in corporate structures. Creativity is related to freedom and risk and none of these are welcomed by corporates.

With this post you do the same thing you rightly criticised @Vaelith for in a thread about KCD. You belittle a game without even having played it.

 

[Andrew23]

With this post you do the same thing you rightly criticised @Vaelith for in a thread about KCD. You belittle a game without even having played it.

Not really. In general I dont mind if people have negative feelings about games they didnt play. And I dont mind if they share this negativity. It also helps me making my choices as I really dont have time to play all games being released these days. Why should that stop me from talking about it?

 

[bkrueger]

Not really. In general I dont mind if people have negative feelings about games they didnt play. And I dont mind if they share this negativity. It also helps me making my choices as I really dont have time to play all games being released these days. Why should that stop me from talking about it?

If somebody makes a substantial analysis of a game and then concludes that it will probably not be good, it is fully o.k. to talk about that negativity. But if the opinion is mainly based on hearsay or prejudice, then you risk that people, who might have otherwise enjoyed the game, are deterred from even trying it. Therefore my personal rule is, to not badmouth games, I am not interested in. (Except tongue-in cheek sometimes, e.g. when somebody claims that Skyrim is a good game. Then I sometime make a joke about it, but I know, that it can be a fun game for other people.)

Of course I am biased, because I love Avowed and I would feel sorry, if people are deterred from trying it by unsubstantiated negative posts. As another example: For some reason I am not interested in Dragon Age: Veilguard. But I would not write posts, explaining, why the game must surely be bad. I would not want people to back off from trying it, since they might enjoy it.

I would be happy, if everybody did it that way: Talk about valid criticism but not badmouth a game, if you don't really know, how it might feel to play it.

 

[Andrew23]

If somebody makes a substantial analysis of a game and then concludes that it will probably not be good, it is fully o.k. to talk about that negativity. But if the opinion is mainly based on hearsay or prejudice, then you risk that people, who might have otherwise enjoyed the game, are deterred from even trying it. Therefore my personal rule is, to not badmouth games, I am not interested in. (Except tongue-in cheek sometimes, e.g. when somebody claims that Skyrim is a good game. Then I sometime make a joke about it, but I know, that it can be a fun game for other people.)

Of course I am biased, because I love Avowed and I would feel sorry, if people are deterred from trying it by unsubstantiated negative posts. As another example: For some reason I am not interested in Dragon Age: Veilguard. But I would not write posts, explaining, why the game must surely be bad. I would not want people to back off from trying it, since they might enjoy it.

I would be happy, if everybody did it that way: Talk about valid criticism but not badmouth a game, if you don't really know, how it might feel to play it.

I can agree with that, but I also think that we dont have much hate here on Watch forums, so I dont see it as big issue here, contrary to rest of the internet.
And about bias ... I think everybody is, one way or other. I would much prefer PoE3, instead of something like Avowed and Im sure that makes me biased too.

 

[bkrueger]

I can agree with that, but I also think that we dont have much hate here on Watch forums, so I dont see it as big issue here, contrary to rest of the internet.
And about bias ... I think everybody is, one way or other. I would much prefer PoE3, instead of something like Avowed and Im sure that makes me biased too.

And I agree to all you say here. I would also love to get a PoE3 and I would play it turn-based, if possible. And surely your post on Avowed wasn't really that negative, compared to others. I was only startled by seeing the two very similar things in the two threats about this and about KCD. This is another example, by the way: I am not interested in KCD, myself, but I still didn't like, how it was badmouthed by you-know-who in that thread.

 

[boobaloo]

I don't know if I will try this game. I liked Outer Worlds in the beginig but it was a chore to end it. I'm affraid the same will happen with this one. Im going back more and more to indie gaming where I have refreshing experiences My way of chosing the next games I play is going to youtube and typing 10 hidden gems or best games no one played, there I found some of the most satisfying games I played in the last few years like seven days long gone (very rough but I loved this game), The fall of the Dungeon Guardians (one of the best blobers I ever played), Kena bridge of Spirits (cute soulslike with a lot of soul) and myasma chronicles (love strange worlds). Next on the list are Drova and Tails of Iron.

 

[bkrueger]

I don't know if I will try this game. I liked Outer Worlds in the beginig but it was a chore to end it. I'm affraid the same will happen with this one. Im going back more and more to indie gaming where I have refreshing experiences My way of chosing the next games I play is going to youtube and typing 10 hidden gems or best games no one played, there I found some of the most satisfying games I played in the last few years like seven days long gone (very rough but I loved this game), The fall of the Dungeon Guardians (one of the best blobers I ever played), Kena bridge of Spirits (cute soulslike with a lot of soul) and myasma chronicles (love strange worlds). Next on the list are Drova and Tails of Iron.

I can understand this. There are too many games to really buy and try them all. So you need some selection criteria like the ones you describe. I do something similar, however with different criteria.

However, I would wish. that more games had a playable demo version, so you can try it. I believe that several sceptical people would like Avowed, when the had the chance to try it that way.

Theoretically the possibility to refund a game on steam, if you played it only for a short time, could be seen as a way to have a playable demo. But first buying the game, even if a refund is possible, seems to be a too high an obstacle. (I never do that myself, but I somehow had the luck, that in the last three years all but one of the games I bought, were really fun for me.)

I personally am probably not the right person to give you advice on Avowed, since I liked Outer Worlds as well as Avowed. But I can say that for my feeling Avowed was more fun, had more interesting game mechanics and story, and a much more beautiful world than Outer Worlds. It is set in the PoE world, by the way so the PoE games are a better comparison than Outer Worlds regarding World and story. Regarding game mechanics it is nearer to Outer Worlds, but a little more complex.

 

[Philistine]

Everyone forms some kind of opinion about every game before it comes out, or how would you pick what to spend your money on? I'll get Avowed in a couple of years if the price is under $40. That's still a bit high for me, but I enjoyed POE and OW, so I'm ok at that. Veilguard I'll pick up too, but not until it's around $10, because I'm expecting the worst but still want to finish the story even if it is a train wreck.

 

[Greygore]

I'm taking my time. Still finishing up a few quests in the first area before moving on. I'm enjoying it, but personally I would have preferred a POE3 isometric instead. I'm enjoying the lore, but the voice acting is pretty bland.

 

[Vaelith]

I would have preferred PoE3 too, but Avowed is fine. The depressing thing is that PoE3 probably wouldn't have had half the success of Avowed, which is why I tend to treasure every CRPG we get, even when it's not a perfect game in every aspect - at this point it's a niche genre that most companies consider risky to invest on and it's in the hands of indie studios or small dev teams making games out passion and inspiration. BG3 was an outlier, and unlikely to be repeated until Larian's next game.