So the largest hand crafted open world for an RPG happens to belong to Xenoblade X

[Aubrielle]

*sigh*

I don't wanna get a Wii U...but I want this game.......

 

[JDR13]

I don't wanna get a Wii U…but I want this game…….

Same here.

I can't justify spending $350 for 1 game though. I'll probably wait and see how the new Legend of Zelda game is first. They're saying it's going to be much larger than any previous Zelda and a completely open world.

When I look at the rest of the Wii U's library though… ugh. I don't see a single game that makes me want to purchase that system.

 

[GothicGothicness]

Elel would faint if she saw this game..... normally I am against censorship... but well, this chinese girl Lin is 13 years old in japanese version of the game...

https://twitter.com/_teikage/status/660051660039979009
https://twitter.com/_teikage/status/660050698080514052

Perhaps a bit inappropirate ? So for ones I am quite fine with that.

 

[Elel]

Ack! Thanks, Gothicness, now I don't have to regret not having a Wii U

Although I still wanted it for another, non-RPG, game, but nooo... one single game is not enough to make me seriously consider buying it.

 

[Aubrielle]

Same here.

I can't justify spending $350 for 1 game though. I'll probably wait and see how the new Legend of Zelda game is first. They're saying it's going to be much larger than any previous Zelda and a completely open world.

When I look at the rest of the Wii U's library though… ugh. I don't see a single game that makes me want to purchase that system.

Ugh. I couldn't have said it any better myself. I was in GameStop tonight, looking at the Wii U games just to see what they had, and Xenoblade Chronicles X looked like the only game playable by grownups. The Zelda game has me curious too but I'm so jaded on Zelda that I don't have any hope left to waste on Nintendo.

Though, if it's good, that would definitely change my tune on the Wii U.

Perhaps a bit inappropirate ? So for ones I am quite fine with that.

That's disgusting. She's a child!! What's wrong with these designers?! These people need help…

 

[Damian]

Yeah it is certainly disgusting. But that is just the Japanese.

 

[Aubrielle]

Yeah it is certainly disgusting. But that is just the Japanese.

Well that's what Miyazaki meant when he said he hated anime. He said a lot of the trends of over-sexualizing young girls grossed him out, and it inspired him to make movies like Spirited Away and Howl's Moving Castle, where none of that happened.

I love anime, and I love the style, but god, I hate the predatory/pervy angle that some artists and designers go after...

 

[Deleted User]

Xenoblade is a true system seller. I purchased the original Wii just to play the first Xenoblade game and it was well worth it. I'll eventually pick up a Wii U to play the new game. Plus, who doesn't love all those great Mario and Zelda games that come out for these systems? It's just an added bonus when you get to play all those classic Nintendo titles along with monsters like Xenoblade and Last Story.

 

[Couchpotato]

Elel would faint if she saw this game….. normally I am against censorship… but well, this chinese girl Lin is 13 years old in japanese version of the game…

https://twitter.com/_teikage/status/660051660039979009
https://twitter.com/_teikage/status/660050698080514052

Perhaps a bit inappropirate ? So for ones I am quite fine with that.

Every JRPG released in the west was censored so this is nothing new. I personally prefer the new US look over the so called Japanese Loli look anyway.

Why the hell would you wear a bikini to battle anyway.

Xenoblade is a true system seller. I purchased the original Wii just to play the first Xenoblade game and it was well worth it. I'll eventually pick up a Wii U to play the new game. Plus, who doesn't love all those great Mario and Zelda games that come out for these systems? It's just an added bonus when you get to play all those classic Nintendo titles along with monsters like Xenoblade and Last Story.

Not for $350 it's not. I'll wait for the emulator in a few years.

Link - https://gbatemp.net/threads/release-cemu-wii-u-emulator.399524/

Here is new a interview with the voice actor.

Morris broached the topic by discussing the bikini costumes themselves.

“[It] honestly makes me cringe a little bit because she’s only 13 years old,” said Morris. “People are calling it censorship. I really see it as localization. There are a lot of cultural differences between Japan and the US and Europe. I, personally, don’t mind that Lin’s outfits were change for the US version. My hope is that players will be able to concentrate on Lin’s abilities and what she can bring to your game and what she can do for the other members of her party and not just how she looks. I also think that covering Lin up a little bit will make parents more comfortable with kids playing the game, so it also opens the game up for a wider audience.”


This was hardly the focus of the video, though. Morris also revealed:

• She didn’t know what game she was auditioning for because it was simply being called “space travel” at the time.
• There were 1,600-1,800 lines for Lin, above average for a video game.
• Morris thinks Lin is “a really, really strong female character [and] even though she’s young, she’s super smart and very self-reliant. She can take care of herself. She can cook dinner and also kick your ass.”
• Lin sounds older in the US version because they thought it would sound better; a young voice over the course of a very long RPG “might have sounded grating on the player’s ears.”

 

[Aubrielle]

Not for $350 it's not. I'll wait for the emulator in a few years.

GameStop has them for like…$249, pre-owned in like-new condition? I didn't even see any grey flakey finger-nasties on the controller. o.o; If you were gonna get one, this seems like the only way to go.

 

[JDR13]

I believe there's a new system bundle that includes Xenoblade X as the pack-in game. Not sure about the price though.

 

[Elel]

Every JRPG released in the west was censored so this is nothing new. I personally prefer the new US look over the so called Japanese Loli look anyway.

Are you saying that the English version of this game is decent?

Sometimes they change games in the wrong way. Like, in Nier they changed a handsome man for an ugly one, thinking he would appeal more to the Western male audience. I'm not sure it's true, but that certainly put me off playing it. Just knowing that handsome was changed to ugly. It's not like the handsome guy was running around in his panties, there was nothing to censor. And I've never seen a beautiful woman being changed to ugly.

 

[Couchpotato]

Are you saying that the English version of this game is decent?

I haven't played the US version yet so who knows. Though I found the Japanese version good thanks to an international friend when I last played it earlier this year.

As for censorship read the Atlus and Xseed development blogs. They always mention the very first part of the translation process is to decide what needs to be changed, or cut.

It seems to be getting worse with every new release. Heck some Japanese developers will not be releasing their games in the west anymore due to censorship/different views.

 

[Elel]

As for censorship read the Altus and Xseed development blogs. They always mention the very first part of the translation process is to decide what needs to be changed, or cut.

I remember reading a lot of whining about how hard and long translating is at an Xseed blog, but didn't really follow it to see any censorship mentioned. Never seen an Atlus blog. A link, please?

Heck some Japanese developers will not be releasing their games in the west anymore due to censorship laws.

Well, if their games are that bad, then good riddance!

 

[Couchpotato]

Well the XSeed Vice president spoke about censorship.

Link - http://operationrainfall.com/2015/1...ent-ken-berry-on-new-games-censorship-and-pc/

With games like Oneechanbara and Senran Kagura there seem to be this issue where companies like Atlus and NISA are forced to censor their video games for Western audiences. XSEED doesn’t seem to ever be included in this conversation, but it ever in the discussion that you might have to censor a title due to cultural differences.

Yes, all the time. The good and bad thing is are localization team is made up of the vocal audiences online against censorship. Tom Lipschultz is the most vocal of them, he will on his own speak publicly online saying, “Nothing should ever be censored”. Knowing that there’s someone like that on our internal team there is always a very outspoken voice against censorship. We do always try to keep the original creators vision in mind when we localize stuff as long as it can be excepted in the US. The ESRB is probably more lenient then what people think because they’ve been clear to us that it isn’t their job to censor anything it’s their job to just rate the content. So most of the time we present the content as is and they come back with an M rating, which we understand, but if they come back with an AO than we have to have some discussions about what to censor in order to get that to an M rating. Otherwise, none of the platform holders allow an AO product on their platform.

So if XSEED was faced with the decision to censor a game would you continue to localize it or would it change your mind about the whole thing?

That would be placing us in a very very difficult position because censoring it would alienate the very audience that we are trying to bring the game for while not really appeasing any of the critics that had no purchase intent in the first place. So we’d be doing a lot of extra work and going through a lot of extra trouble and pleasing nobody. So hopefully we’re never in that position

I agree with his opinion.

As the offended parties never would have bought the game anyway.

 

[Elel]

Depends on what they censor. If it's smoking and drinking, then it's just silly, of course. If it's objectification of female bodies, I'm all for it and I'm one of those who wouldn't buy such a game but would buy a censored version.

I once heard a lot of controversy over a horror game called Rule of Rose, for the fact that it depicted bullying among children under 16. That was really stupid, in my opinion. I remember it ended up banned for sale for a while. I played it later and it was a normal game, even realistic as far as bullying among girls goes. So yeah sometimes censorship goes too far, but sometimes it doesn't. I heard that in Japan most PC games are porn games, and it doesn't surprise me that demented Japanese devs want to insert their porn everywhere. I certainly want that censored. Porn-clad characters can't be taken seriously and the story in the game just falls apart.

So I don't know whether to agree or disagree with you. It depends on what kind of thing the guy is talking about.

 

[Aubrielle]

Depends on what they censor. If it's smoking and drinking, then it's just silly, of course. If it's objectification of female bodies, I'm all for it and I'm one of those who wouldn't buy such a game but would buy a censored version.

Absolutely.

 

[Couchpotato]

Even Kotaku has a good article on this topic for once.

Link - http://kotaku.com/from-japan-with-changes-the-endless-debate-over-video-1747960323

At the end of day it seems I'm more tolerant then others on this issue. Though if editing a costume instead of cutting the whole character is all it takes it doesn't bother me.

 

[Couchpotato]

While I'm at it President Haru Akenaga of Idea Factory also talked about censorship.

Link - http://operationrainfall.com/2015/12/04/interview-haru-akenaga-masashiro-yamamoto/

In recent video game news Team Ninja PR has announced that they are not planning on releasing Dead or Alive Xtreme 3 here due to how the sexualization of women in video games is viewed in the West. Does this issue ever affect your process of choosing which games will be released in the West?

Haru – That’s honestly their decision, but yes, sadly, it has stopped us from localizing certain Compile Heart games. We don’t want to censor anymore because we know that’s not true to the original developed art.

 

[zakhal]

You can decide what the characters wear in this game so you dont have to bring bikinies into the battle. I have swinsuit gear in my inventory including a snorkel but I have never tried them out, the stats are no good. The first xeno also had swimsuit gear in the beginning, it was even decent in stats. The character wearing them was a bit older though.

I just finished xeno (on wii u) before xeno x, took around 70 hours and x is like twice longer. There is really lots to do in this game and many of the sidequests are way better than in the original. In the original only the main story was interesting, sidequests were seriously lacking. Ive played for like week or two but I still in the start of the game, still missing lots of core stuff like the skells, cant even modify my characters looks yet.