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I didn't want to polute the currently watching thread with this discussion, so I started a new thread.
I'm only on the 5th episode of season 2 (Lost and Found), and this is the first time I've found something that either really makes no sense and is a plothole, or maybe they'll explain it later on? Anyway, if it's explained later on, then just confirmation of this would be enough, with as little spoilers as possible.
So, Jonas is talking to his oldest self, Adam. And Jonas says that the moment to return to, in order stop the loop, is before his dad commits suicide. And Adams confirms that if he were to stop his dad from commiting suicide, it all stops. With just himself being gone.
First of all, I get this is Jonas's idea, so Adam might just be going along with this to get what he wants. But if it's so, is Jonas really that naive to believe that will stop all of this? Because it doesn't make any sense that it would stop.
Even if Jonas does stop his dad from commiting suicide, why would that stop Mikkel from going into the caves? I can't remember exactly why Mikkel hid inside the caves initially, but what's to stop him from going there for any other reason?
And even if this stops Mikkel from time-traveling, how would that not cause a paradox. In order for Jonas to stop his father, he needs to exist, and thus needs Mikkel to time-travel.
Anyways, I find it hard to believe Jonas would believe this. But if he does believe this, and will do this, is this how Adam expects the loop to stop? By causing a paradox? I realize there's still one more season, so I guess it can't end that fast. So maybe more weird stuff will happen? Which is fine by me. I guess I just have a problem suspending my disbelief that Jonas would believe that stopping his dad from killing himself, would stop all of this and still leave the world intact (except for himself)
I'm only on the 5th episode of season 2 (Lost and Found), and this is the first time I've found something that either really makes no sense and is a plothole, or maybe they'll explain it later on? Anyway, if it's explained later on, then just confirmation of this would be enough, with as little spoilers as possible.
So, Jonas is talking to his oldest self, Adam. And Jonas says that the moment to return to, in order stop the loop, is before his dad commits suicide. And Adams confirms that if he were to stop his dad from commiting suicide, it all stops. With just himself being gone.
First of all, I get this is Jonas's idea, so Adam might just be going along with this to get what he wants. But if it's so, is Jonas really that naive to believe that will stop all of this? Because it doesn't make any sense that it would stop.
Even if Jonas does stop his dad from commiting suicide, why would that stop Mikkel from going into the caves? I can't remember exactly why Mikkel hid inside the caves initially, but what's to stop him from going there for any other reason?
And even if this stops Mikkel from time-traveling, how would that not cause a paradox. In order for Jonas to stop his father, he needs to exist, and thus needs Mikkel to time-travel.
Anyways, I find it hard to believe Jonas would believe this. But if he does believe this, and will do this, is this how Adam expects the loop to stop? By causing a paradox? I realize there's still one more season, so I guess it can't end that fast. So maybe more weird stuff will happen? Which is fine by me. I guess I just have a problem suspending my disbelief that Jonas would believe that stopping his dad from killing himself, would stop all of this and still leave the world intact (except for himself)
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