You know it's summer when this topic is discussed again - Mortismal Gaming:
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Thanks Redglyph!Will The CRPG Genre Die Again?
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Thanks Redglyph!Will The CRPG Genre Die Again?
Did you drop the time reference? (EDIT: oh, those are the very first words Yeah, he uses "isometric CRPG", in the title too) But you must be right, he's probably considering more than isometric games in his definition, he talks a little bit about that when presenting The CRPG Book at 18:04 (maybe that's what you meant).Chris Davis talks only about isometric CRPGs here.
Isometric gfx are just some form of gfx engine for me and not a very important criterium if a game is a CRPG or not.
IMHO the CRPG genre never died in the past. The late 90s and early 2000s delivered some of the finest CRPGs ever - Gothic 1, Wizardry 8, JA 2 - just to name a few
Dragon Age Origins, Mass Effect, Fallout 3, or any other Bethesda games are not CPRGs by his definition, which is the same as most other Youtubers like NeverKnowsBest, CohhCarnage, Fextralife, Chris Davis (who calls them isometric CRPGs to avoid the confusion), Noah Caldwell-Gervais, WolfheartFPS, … So not the old and outdated Computer RPG meaning, but the Classic RPG meaning: old-style, top-down view often called "isometric", party-based, using a somewhat complex ruleset, with RPG elements (char progression, exploration, and so on).Don't forget Neverwinter Nights 1 and 2, and Knights of the Old Republic 1 and 2. And later on in the years 2000s Dragon Age Origins, Mass Effect, and Fallout 3.
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Actually, you could argue that Bethesda's games are AAA cRPGs, but for some reason, I consider Betheda's games more of an aRPG hybrid that tries to please a larger audience than truly cRPGs. The same goes for the Witcher 3.
Again, I think most of you should consider what he means by CRPG.
So RPGs died with the advent of 3D graphics and were then resurrected in the 2010's?
Again, I think most of you should consider what he means by CRPG.
Dragon Age Origins, Mass Effect, Fallout 3, or any other Bethesda games are not CPRGs by his definition, which is the same as most other Youtubers … So not the old and outdated Computer RPG meaning, but the Classic RPG meaning: old-style, top-down view often called "isometric", party-based, using a somewhat complex ruleset, with RPG elements (char progression, exploration, and so on).