Lefty corruption....again

And it is a false sense of oppression, since the conditions the "me" generation are now experiencing are a direct result of taking communion with St. Ron, and yet they continue to choke while they guzzle the kool-aid. This self-deluding group is against deregulation and have faith in a completely free market no matter the costs, gobernment is bad (except when it's shooting people of other colors and religions)... :p
 
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Doonesbury? LOL, I didn't even know that comic was still around. I can't wait for the midterm elections and the celebration that night. Libs, it's going to be brutal.
 
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I've been reading Doons since it first came out and have nearly all the books as well as the CD. How do you think I keep up with current US politics!! :)
 
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Well, we finally have some more dirt to dish. The thread came close to falling off the first page. Fortunately, there's ACORN.

http://dailycaller.com/2010/05/17/obama-administration-helps-acorn-defend-socialism-–-in-india/

The Obama administration is using U.S. government resources to help the embattled radical advocacy organization spread the gospel of left-wing community organizing in India.
ACORN India’s website declares that the group was created to help defend the “socialist legacy” of Jawaharlal Nehru, a leftist who was prime minister of India from 1947 to 1964.
At least these guys are more honest about their radicalism.
Rathke [leader of ACORN International] was booted out of ACORN after he orchestrated an eight-year cover-up of a nearly $1 million embezzlement from the group that his brother Dale Rathke perpetrated around 2000 while a senior ACORN official.
Booted, and yet still running the show. Interesting, that.
 
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That's an interesting article, dte. I've often wondered just why ACORN has been such a bugbear for the right, and gets the troops so riled. I used to think it was racism, but this line really was illuminating for me:
One of the reasons the group was created was to allow ACORN to apply its corporate shakedown techniques against Western corporations as they expand into rapidly developing markets such as India.
It explains a lot—it's what you guys see as class warfare. Thanks for posting that as it adds to my grasp of the conservative mindset(shaky at best.) :)
To me it looks like your establishment needs to keep the ACORN monster alive even after death. Your rightie pimpster lops off one head, and another one grows back—in a foreign country no less. Scary stuff, and effective, I'm sure.

What does amaze me is that stuff like this is seen as an 'in your face" outraged negative:
Its website declares that since 2006 it has “built key relationships with leadership of political parties, trade unions, hawkers and farmers’ groups, peoples’ movements and the media,” along with “community organizations, trade unions, peoples’ movements and [non-governmental organizations], thus engaging progressively in poverty alleviation and urban development.”

God forbid there be poverty alleviation and urban development in a country with the 11th largest GDP in the world and the 139th per capita income.($1134.) God forbid the people who are providing the labor for the 11th largest GDP get reasonable compensation and living conditions out of it. (But we don't want to ruin a huge cheap labor resource for US corporations, of course.)

And that's the first time I've heard Nehru dissed as a crazed leftist radical, btw. "Socialism" is, contrary to some opinion, not a dirty word everywhere, you know. :)

Edit: If I'm off-base on the class warfare thing, please straighten me out.
 
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Keeping international corporations in check doesn't seem so radical to me.
Using US tax dollars and US government officials to do it? Still feel good about that?
 
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Edit: If I'm off-base on the class warfare thing, please straighten me out.
The games ACORN played were extortion by any standard you'd care to apply. We've been down that road previously, and the evidence was pretty solid and led to them being shut down. Not sure that tactics that are barely legal (by the most generous light) can be fit under the whole "evil corporation" umbrella for justification, so I'm not sure I'd put this one at the feet of class warfare. I think what gets us good and frothy is that y'all will butcher companies for far less malicious behavior while ACORN gets a free pass. The only reason there can be is that you've got some flexible morality going on when the goals line up with yours. (Note, these are all generic "yous", not you personally)
 
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Sure. I think that is one of the many roles of government. Regulation sound familiar?
When was the last time the US passed regulations *in* India? You're using our tax dollars to fund a privately-held political action committee in India. Still OK?
 
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Butcher corporations? Right now they have more free passes then they've ever had in the last 40 or so years... Let's bring back useful regulations crucified by followers of St. Ron (like preventing banks from investing in risky securities on margin).
 
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Although it's not a perfect parallel, this isn't too terribly far off a Halliburton situation. How'd you feel about that one? Why should you feel different about it just because it's ACORN?
 
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Halliburton didn't kill anyone, either (you're probably thinking of Blackwater). They just got government funding they probably didn't deserve as part of a political agenda. So, again, why do you hate Halliburton but support ACORN?
 
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The games ACORN played were extortion by any standard you'd care to apply. We've been down that road previously, and the evidence was pretty solid and led to them being shut down. Not sure that tactics that are barely legal (by the most generous light) can be fit under the whole "evil corporation" umbrella for justification, so I'm not sure I'd put this one at the feet of class warfare. I think what gets us good and frothy is that y'all will butcher companies for far less malicious behavior while ACORN gets a free pass. The only reason there can be is that you've got some flexible morality going on when the goals line up with yours. (Note, these are all generic "yous", not you personally)

Yeah, my 'you's' and 'yours's' are generic as well.

I'm not going to march to any irate defense of ACORN, but I definitely don't see them in the same sinister light. I think we both agree that the job they're supposed to do, organize and assist low-income communities to improve themselves, is not in and of itself evil. I think the sense that someone needs to do the job is important to lefties, and that we get the feeling the right would like the job not to be done at all. I think—correct me if wrong—the right might not actually mind the job itself, they just want the government out of it, (but really, who else is going to pick up the tab of helping the lowest and least become the middle and the productive?)

To transfer it to an issue you've mentioned, maligning ACORN on the grand scale is our version of the negative Tea Party media coverage; i.e., it seems like a smear job to discredit the whole agency (and in turn, it's members & function) because some parts of it were incompetent or corrupt.
 
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