The same thing is VERY likely to happen in the US and elsewhere as people become more desperate. So glad the wack jobs in the House are living up to their campaign promises to create jobs.
Not so pro-Obama anymore?
The same thing is VERY likely to happen in the US and elsewhere as people become more desperate. So glad the wack jobs in the House are living up to their campaign promises to create jobs.
So then, you want to impose rtional thought and order on a situation which is, by definition, chaotic and irrational.
Doesn't really sound productive, does it?
Do you actually think that each rioter sat there and thought to themselves, "All things considered, I'd rather have tea with the Queen, but for *this* particular issue, I shall burn it all to the ground, steal whatever catches my fancy, and maybe kill a person or two."
They call it mob mentality for a reason. You get a small group of people with a gripe (it was reported over here that the very first spasm was over the police killing some young gangbanger, like JDR mentioned earlier, and everything went to shit from there) and the herd starts to gather and follow. The herd doesn't know what caused the movement, and very likely doesn't care. If you interviewed all the rioters, I doubt you'd get more than 1 in 10 that would attempt to justify their actions.
I dont know if this is true but it sounds amazing. How many kids do I need to get for million pound home? Apperently atleast some of the less-fortunate get to live like rich under the benefits.
I pointed out that there was some - possibly six such cases. I never claimed that they represent any sizable portion of the less-fortunate. You people run to wrong conclusions like hungry pack of coyotes.
I have never heard of such cases in Finland so I found it interesting especially when these people have lived years in these houses. I would imagine them to be just temporary solution but I guess thats not the case. Also you could always ponder this from the point of view that this is just the top of the iceberg.But why bring up these minority cases? I mean, we shouldn't have much difficulty finding examples of rich people "milking the system" either, right?
It's kinda pointless, to my mind.
I have never heard of such cases in Finland so I found it interesting especially when these people have lived years in these houses. I would imagine them to be just temporary solution but I guess thats not the case. Also you could always ponder this from the point of view that this is just the top of the iceberg.
If you get worked over every pointless post in this forum you might overstress yourself. Relax Dart.
I think you didnt really comment it because its pointless but because you think that if few poor people strike lucky they shouldnt be looked badly even if it the way they got it was through benefits. Thats okay though. Im not looking at them badly. Im just curious (and a bit jelous).
I read an article recently where they interviewed young people in different countries in Europe. I have to say I was surprised, even a lot of youths with education didn't have that much hope about their future.
OK, but now comes a tremendous leap...This is why neither communism or anarch-capitalism works. As soon as you get rid of the power a power take it's place, whether it's the ruler of a large company or the leader of the party. Neither have any reason to give that power up and neither can be removed without a system to remove them.
I don't think you mean "socialism". Technically, schools and welfare have nothing to do with public control of means of production, which is the actual definition of socialism. But regardless of definition quibbles, your logic is to eliminate both extremes and then embrace a single option from many potential choices in the middle. Ain't be right thinkin there. Feel free to supply the appropriate impressive latin.Moderate socialism is the only system that works. All western countries today have socialist systems, from public schools to wellfare systems. The more of the population that accepts socialism, the better the society works. But socialism is not communism. Socialism allow each one to own what they earned, up to a point. This freedom is essential for many reasons. That's why most western countries also have a private sector and a government sector.
OK, but now comes a tremendous leap…
I don't think you mean "socialism". Technically, schools and welfare have nothing to do with public control of means of production, which is the actual definition of socialism. But regardless of definition quibbles, your logic is to eliminate both extremes and then embrace a single option from many potential choices in the middle. Ain't be right thinkin there. Feel free to supply the appropriate impressive latin.
A clip from the streets. There's another one on the newsection which I can't link because of —.
She was lucky, no doubt left alone because she is a woman, among other considerations. Look what happened to the guy who was trying to put out a fire in Ealing, or the individual foolish enough to attempt to persuade a group of reprobates from breaking into a well known cell phone outlet. The Ealing guy ended up dead, the second character had a powder fire extinguisher emptied in his face.
I lived in Hackney for 15 years, half of that in Queensdown road abutting the Pembury estate and the other half in Homerton. I also taught there. Whilst it is true that there is an enormous amount of community spirit, it is also true that, aside from in London fields, the ethnic groups do not mix together in any real sense. Even in the classroom past year 9 the kids just divided along racial lines in the most part and the whole gang thing kicked in. But it was a vibrant place to live, and I enjoyed it. Until I got spat at in Victoria Park for having the temerity to breastfeed.Still, a one off I thought, and let it go. And then, whilst pushing my baby, I made the huge error of confronting a bunch of youths who were bolt cutting a nice bike from it's padlocked site. Slammed up against the wall and spat at, threatened and the gang around my baby, I ended up shaking on the floor clutching my baby and terrified. The whole street vanished. No-one helped. When I reported it to the police, no-one had seen anything, despite my clearly being in the middle of Homerton High Street and the whole of it standing and watching it go on. Not much community spirit then. None, in fact. Or at least, not to me.
I left and I have no intention of ever going back.London lost another teacher willing to work in the "sink" schools. There is a very real problem in Hackney and whilst it may partly be to do with poverty, it's also about an attitude that sucks big time and gangs, drugs and the gang culture, and yes, race. If Mrs P had stood up in Homerton High Street that day she'd have no doubt been listened to, or at least not abused in the way I was. Anyone can call me racist if they want, but the fact is, I was a white woman standing up to someone and nobody black helped me. Nobody white did either, but I don't recall a huge amount of white people being there. Whether they ignored the crime and assault because they were afraid of the kids, or retribution from them, or personal reasons, fact is, they did. And it is surely worth asking why Mrs P could stand up and shout and I could not.
I thought capital was a means of production.