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Yeah, I don't get how anyone could rank Risen or Gothic 3 ahead of Gothic 2, but it sounds like your experience wasn't optimal. Did you play it with NotR installed?
I wouldn't put Gothic 3 above 2, but I would revise my list to put it above Risen 1. Flaws and all, G3 is still a very interesting game after patching. Risen 1 is great, best Risen game IMO, but I'd probably put G3 just a slight bit ahead of it, mostly for the huge unscaled open-world and very ambitious and unique mechanics.