magerette
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Interesting, Z. This is one of the reasons I like to see non-US residents participate.
I don't think Obama's realization that Nafta has had some adverse affects on our job situation totally equates with what you're saying, though. In Audacity of Hope, he speaks about the need for global trade quite positively, merely saying it's a hard sell to some of his Illinois constituents in the Labor Unions. I think you'd find--should he happen to overcome the smear machine and get elected--that he has a more moderate and realistic policy toward the trade thing. He's really not nearly as "left" as he's perceived. And that's part of his problem now, as he seems to be shifting but in reality remains the conciliator and listener he's always been.
AFA McCain--he is indeed more Bush than Bush. Don't doubt that.
One of the things that's surprising me here is that no one has ticked off any of the undecided options. There's supposed to be a fairly large segment of voters who have not committedp; my question really was whether anyone is having their mind changed by the ungoing elections, or being persuaded one way or the other after not being able to pick. Apparently not, at least so far, and it seems people remain firm in their decision regardless of the tit-for tat BS that constitutes campaigning. That's reassuring in some ways and kind of scary in others(i.e., the "gut feeling" trumping any ability to show facts.)
I don't think Obama's realization that Nafta has had some adverse affects on our job situation totally equates with what you're saying, though. In Audacity of Hope, he speaks about the need for global trade quite positively, merely saying it's a hard sell to some of his Illinois constituents in the Labor Unions. I think you'd find--should he happen to overcome the smear machine and get elected--that he has a more moderate and realistic policy toward the trade thing. He's really not nearly as "left" as he's perceived. And that's part of his problem now, as he seems to be shifting but in reality remains the conciliator and listener he's always been.
AFA McCain--he is indeed more Bush than Bush. Don't doubt that.
One of the things that's surprising me here is that no one has ticked off any of the undecided options. There's supposed to be a fairly large segment of voters who have not committedp; my question really was whether anyone is having their mind changed by the ungoing elections, or being persuaded one way or the other after not being able to pick. Apparently not, at least so far, and it seems people remain firm in their decision regardless of the tit-for tat BS that constitutes campaigning. That's reassuring in some ways and kind of scary in others(i.e., the "gut feeling" trumping any ability to show facts.)
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