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DArtagnan
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If this is about wanting to put me down, then there are much more efficient ways. But, I suggest you PM me for advice on that - and we let this thread get back on topic?
I don't have a problem with Skyrim not being on the list. I never expected anything else from the Codex. But fact is, I only found 5 games on this top70 list that I don't own and still love Oblivion, Skyrim and Fallout 3. Go call me heretic.To finish this "Skyrim is not on the list" - crap
Here is a very fair in-deep-analysis of the game:
CRPG-Meter for Skyrim
33k mods for Skyrim on the Nexus alone speaks a bit about loyal group of supporters. Why there's practically 0 on the Codex, is another story and pretty much self-imposed.Something like Arcanum, which some people describe as a broken mess, has a loyal group of supporters who allocated points to it. Other groups favoured Wizardry, or the gold box games, or Witcher, Gothic. Something like Skyrim simply had no/few supporters who loved aspects of it enough to rate it very highly.
Objectivity. Plain and simple.What would you expect from such a book?
I expect none of it. So I'm still covered with Matt Bartons Dungeons and Desktops: The History of Computer Role-Playing Games, thank you. But good luck anyway.Though the world itself is not as large as what can be seen in games by a certain company-that-shall-not-be-named,
It doesn't have to understand it. The fact that it allows it, is more than most RPGs can claim.It might be roleplaying but Skyrim, the game, does not understand those roles.
It cant ensure the feedback on the roleplaying as it happens in RPGs.
I don't think RPG codex made a list of top mods.33k mods for Skyrim on the Nexus alone speaks a bit about loyal group of supporters.
Then the list is not so bad at all… ?I only found 5 games on this top70 list that I don't own …
I'm fully aware that it isn't about mods at all. HiddenX used the quoted part as an explanation about why Arcanum is on the list and Skyrim isn't. And I'm pretty damn sure the amount of loyal supporters of Skyrim, isn't below the amount of loyal supporters of Arcanum - at least not outside of the Codex.snip
I never claimed that it's bad, not once. Lack of objectivity and fair mindedness from anything coming from the Codex which includes it's userbase? Anytime.Then the list is not so bad at all… ?
A completely objective book sounds like an encyclopedia. Which sounds pretty boring to me.Objectivity. Plain and simple.
Given where it's coming from (Codex) and your approach with user-reviews, example Gothic 1:
I expect none of it. So I'm still covered with Matt Bartons Dungeons and Desktops: The History of Computer Role-Playing Games, thank you. But good luck anyway.
If a person likes the things Arcanum did well, Skyrim has nothing to offer that person. They're totally different games.I don't think you should look at skyrim and not consider mods. Bethesda embraced mods and the modding community.
To me skyrim is a technical marvel, say what you want about bugs and what not but the fact is I can install skyrim and 100 mods made by several different people and have it run rock solid. If that's not impressive I don't know what is.
Arcanum was buggy with terrible gameplay and it's inclusion on the list shows the bias towards old games. I'm not sure why anyone would be surprised though. The codex and the watch have always been heavily slanted towards old games.
If a person likes the things Arcanum did well, Skyrim has nothing to offer that person. They're totally different games.
Also, 2 of the top 15 games came out in the last 4 years. Is preferring New Vegas to Fallout 3 a bias towards old games?
Wizards and Warriors (every real RPG fan knows in his heart that game was completely and utterly broken)
Arcanum was buggy with terrible gameplay and it's inclusion on the list shows the bias towards old games. I'm not sure why anyone would be surprised though. The codex and the watch have always been heavily slanted towards old games.
... and by the Codex and about 99% of it's userbase, I'm not because I enjoyed Skyrim, F3 and Oblivion. So.... welcome to the "real" side.Okay - then (by this logic) I'm clearly not a real RPG fan.
That's the Codex for me in a nutshell. Only difference is, that I quickly found the skimming too much work for too little gain, at least for everything past the frontpage articles.Too bad, as sometimes there is useful info in there. You just need to know when to apply the the BS filter, and skim…